Monday 19 September 2011

“Crisis in the mind of a student of Community Medicine”


“Crisis in the mind of a student of Community Medicine”
The discussion starts with queries, suggestions, comments posted on Modern Community Medicine, a group on facebook social network in September. As a student, teacher and practitioner  of Community Medicine/Public Health I decided to write down few lines from my own perception and little experience gained during post-MBBS period(January,2003-September,2011). I would definitely like to share with budding Community Medicine Specialists and the greats in this field.
First of all I would like to declare that, I am a proud “MD degree holder” in Community Medicine. To me Community Medicine in India has gone beyond the age of sanitation awakening, vector control...It is progressing towards a new horizon of Advanced Community Medicine Teaching (Academics), Health System Strengthening, Health System Administration & Management, Health System Research & Development etc. Today, large numbers of the Community Medicine(CM) experts are produced in India with respect to increased demand generated for them, than ever before. As a student of Community Medicine we have to raise ourselves and our quality to meet the above demands and prepare ourselves during post graduate training. I believe along with others that “A community medicine specialist without valid field experience will never make a good academician”.
 Let’s have a SWOT analysis with respect to deeply concerned career prosperity and identity crisis in Community Medicine. I am doing with Weakness(W), Opportunity(O) and Threats(T) first later we’ll go with Strength(S). Let’s examine these four real statements of professionals related to this discipline.
“…I am a first year post-graduate student of Community Medicine. From the day I joined in this subject I have listened stories stating the dilemma which a MD(community Medicine) faces. Even I am not able to explain to people what branch of medicine I am in. I had a tough time with an old woman of my village explaining this. So I finally ended up as a polio doctor who conducts pulse polio…”
“…if I am not convinced with my subject, I surely am not in a position to convince anyone else. I feel very uncomfortable and painful to learn that WHY we still do not have enough courage to speak about the subject which is going to earn bread and butter in the coming years...”
“…I have always felt that PG students from our branch feel a kind of insecurity. The reason for that can be unawareness regarding scope of our subject and availability of opportunities outside medical colleges after completion. It is very difficult to believe that Community Medicine is not a non clinical subject. PGs from other clinical branches do not have any doubt about their future and are very clear in their mind…”
“…what for the community medicine is? More precisely what for Modern community medicine is? It deals with UG/PG teaching only...research...consultancy (WHO/UNICEF/anyNGO) or management/administration(of health programme)..!!?? And still searching for answers...!!...
I would like to address the crises/concerns arising in the mind of a 1st year students of Community Medicine in getting due recognition in public life. An Identity crisis arises first. After taking this degree what specialist they will be called unlike cardiologist, gynaecologist, surgeons etc. How they will tell/explain a common man about their specialty? Not only the new comers into this discipline but also some elder degree holders still nurture the identity crisis in their mind.
Start of thinking and telling yourself and to others that you are going to be/are a “Community Medicine Specialist” only and only who will prevent the disease itself before it attacks a man by help of prophylactic drugs, vaccines, health education, preventive measures, preventive health check-ups and investigations. The way of taking help of polio tag is unacceptable and discouraging. Doesn’t it produce a sense of “Impersonation”? Once it made me laugh a lot when one of my wife's friend used to think that I was a polio doctor when I was a SMO in UP. I told my wife to tell her that “I am more than a polio doctor”. Still that lady rings my phone from UP for medical advice for ailments in her children. So raise yourself, rise above the identity crisis. Always try to find the best possible answer to your problems. Ask your peers and seniors for a solution. Eat, drink, talk and sleep with COMMUNITY MEDICINE and raise the standard and quality of this discipline.
There was a time when Current & Contemporary Greats of Community Medicine (Our beloved respected teachers) were called as “Jack of all Trades, Master of None”.  Actually it was not the problem with the system at all.  If you look deep into the subject matter of Community Medicine  you will find that our beautiful discipline overlaps and intersects with other disciplines like Paediatrics (in early neonatal care, infant growth, immunization,childhood nutrition and illnesses etc:eg. nothing but Preventive Paediatrics), Obstetrics & Gynaecology(in antenatal care, maternal health and nutrition, safe pregnancy and maternal survival:eg nothing but Preventive Obstetrics & Gynaecology) and Public Health(Health system management, health system strengthening, health system researches, national health program operation, health policy formulation etc: eg. nothing but Practical/Field Community Medicine).To conclude that the subject itself makes/metamorphose us into a “Five Star-Expert/a Jack/a Master of trades. Because a MD in Community Medicine knows about Reproductive & Child Health/ Occupation Health/Health Management & Administration/ Disease Epidemiology/ Teaching Technology/ Health Policy/ Immunization/ Nutrition science/ Conducting Research. Simply talking we deal with preventive aspects of every clinical subject. Then how and why should we be tagged “Non Clinical”??? Now we have to rise above this “identity crisis” by only introspecting the subject matter of this discipline. It demands in that manner. We have to look after the preventive health of human from womb to tomb along with health system’s needs as policy maker, planner, manager, administrator, researcher etc. We have to play these multiple roles destined to us. And Community Medicine is all about these. We have to ward off all the inferiority complexes nourished in our mind. The PG teachers would have to play, impinge and enrich into the minds of PG students of this branch of Medicine.
Now let’s go to Opportunity(O).Many years back, role of the professional with MD in PSM/CM/SPM was viewed as Medical Teacher in Medical Colleges only and it was a very traditional thought and choice. That scenario no longer exits and persists. Time has come for experts in the Community Medicine to play active role as Policy Advisors/Planners, Program Managers/Technical Consultants (Surveillance Medical Officer/TB Consultant/Maternal Health Consultant etc), Researchers in the field of public health. Also there is scope to see beyond the Government Sector & International Agencies. The experts need to expand their role in large Voluntary and the Private sectors as well.
The opportunities for a MD is of broad and multi spectrum. Just after completion you have these options on your “Career Plate”.
Classification of Opportunity
(A) Teaching (in a Government or Private run Medical Colleges/Public Health Institutes like PHFI, AIIPH etc).
(B) Non-Teaching/Public Health Consultancy (with State/Central Governments, UN Agency like WHO,UNICEF,UNFPA  etc &  Other Private sectors etc).
Next question is “What do you like to see yourself after 3 years of obtaining the MD Degree?”
The answer may be (a) A full time Academician or (b)A full time Public Health Consultant.
If your answer is (a) there are 2 Options from me.
Option 1: Join directly as Senior Resident/Tutor/Assistant Professor in Community Medicine. Later on if your department gets involved in Project/Research works, you could accumulate and acquire field experiences.
Option 2: * Try to join with an agency mentioned in classification under (B) which either needs professionals with MBBS only/MD/MPH. Work there for 2-3 years only not more. Return to join/start the career of teaching(A community medicine specialist without valid field experience may not make a good academician).
*Ensure that during sacrificing 2-3 years with agencies you must not cross the age limit to start the career as Senior Resident/Tutor/Assistant Professor in Community Medicine.
If your answer is (b) there are 2 Options from me.
Option 1: **Directly join with an agency mentioned in classification under (B) which either needs professionals with MBBS only/MD/MPH. Do not hesitate the hard and harsh Field Work/Field Travel. After  2-3 years opt for better jobs.
Option 2: Join directly as Senior Resident/Tutor/Assistant Professor in Community Medicine. Work for 3 years, get as many as papers published as 1st/2nd author. Then join with agencies as consultants preferably in that posts which need MD/MPH.(To me it is a safe choice because if at all you need to return back to teaching your past experience of 3 years in teaching will protect your position as Assistant Professor)
**Remember always that the experience-years accumulated in public health field is not considered as teaching experience.
The fresh MD degree holder with 2-3 years of public health field experience just after their MBBS will always remain ahead of others.
Threats(T) include  (i) Competition from MPH degree holders during recruitments for the post of consultants (iii) Preferences for MBBS degree holders with >3 years progressive experience by agencies(ii) Increased PG seats in mushrooming Private and Government medical colleges which increases competition for the posts of SR/Tutor/Assistant Professors. You have to keep it in mind always.
As a Community Medicine Specialist I always dream to run my own clinic under name of  “Immunization & Preventive Health Clinic” whether I am working as a Teaching Faculty or a Consultant. It is yet a dream to come true.
The beauty with MD(Community Medicine) is that your movement can be bidirectional eg. “ Teaching”‹-› “Consultancy”. Widely available career options are always for you. Let’s call ourselves “Community/Preventive Medicine Specialist”. Start fly to the land of opportunities. Wish all of you good luck always…
I am leaving the scope to you to find out the Strength(S) of this discipline throughout your professional career.
 

71 comments:

  1. Nicely written
    well explained
    keep writing

    Regards

    Binod
    MD Community Medicine

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  2. thanks for your words sir. im entering my second year of MD CM. i took MD CM after preparing for five years post MBBS trying for other clinical seat which i didnt get finally. i wanted to ask what other additional courses i can do through distance learning now during my post graduation. becoz i have already wasted 5 years of my carer. i want to have max possible qualification with me.

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  3. Dear Kalee,
    Thanks for sharing your experience here.There is nothing to loose your heart after getting CM after 5 trials at PG Entrance.Think that you are now married to CM against your choice. So after marriage to CM you should be sincere and committed to your marital life(eg. professional life) with CM. Then the subject will take care of you.

    Also, I would like to suggest you to do a Diploma/Master degree in health and hospital management. It will broaden your thinking and vision. You can go for an one year distant course in health and hospital management(PGDHHM) offered by IGNOU and National Institute of Family Welfare(govt. of India) or others during your PG training in CM.
    Wish you best for your future indeavours.

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  4. thanx sir,
    u have very well compiled our branch critics and scope, i have also finished my MD CM in 2013 from Seth GSMC & KEM hospital. your future scope will help me in selecting my track.
    Regards
    Dr. Rakesh
    Asst Professor
    SVN GMC Yavatmal (MS)

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  5. any opportunioties for MD PSM in ajmer,currently m working as GDMO in delhi

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  6. sir,first of all thnx to ur inspiring post...
    sir,i wnt to pursue carreer in psm....but sir i also want for further study in same...
    kindly tell me further courses after md psm and sir,is there any ph.d in psm/mph...
    kindly reply sir...urgently

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  7. sir ... thank u!! i am getting comm med from CMC Vellore...!! how r the opportunities for going abroad for furthr education and getting JOBS IN UN after graduating from vellore???

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  8. Sir its really gr8 to hear about the branch I m starting my career in MD CM..I would like to ask whether it is important to choose a good institute for PSM becoz opportunities will b there I got MD PSM jhansi through all India.. Can u pls enlighten me about good institute for PSM...

    Thank you sir

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  9. many many thanks bhai. it feels so relaxed after going through your texts.actually i am waiting for aipgmee counseling and i want to take psm as md. since the days in mkcg medical college i know you. and here i have found you in this blog. so inspiring...

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  10. Sir nice articleee guide us more

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  11. Yeah It's good I appreciate this article. I recommand it to my friends,I,ll be back here again and again . Visit our blog for more .

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  12. wow greatly explained , I will definitely recommend it my other colligues of CM department

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    1. Respected Sir, Thanks a lot for your valuable opinion,it cleared a lot of confusions in my mind. Currently I am a 1st year PGT of MD CM in Burdwan Medical College West Bengal. I want join the health administrative service in State or Central govt. Want to know what are the various opportunities regarding joining the health administrative service and future jobs as health administrator in abroad? Please help. I'll be highly grateful to you Sir.

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  13. Beautifully explained sir... thank u so much.. i m going thru the same phase..kindly enlighten us more about the career options in the abroad esp south east asian region and middle east... that will be a great help...!!

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    1. Write me if you are really interested to work with NGOs...

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    2. hi sir , this is shobhit here , doing MD CM from AIIHPH kolkata , i just entered 2nd yr , sir want to know about how is the life in NGO setting ? and how can i prepare my self for NGO work ?

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  14. Sir, i m an mbbs graduate and want to gain some experience for an year or two in the field of community medicine... Although have started preparing for the post graduation entrance exams and i want to do md psm since ever... But the lack og guidance is confusing me a lot... Pls help!!

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  15. Sir, i m an mbbs graduate and want to gain some experience for an year or two in the field of community medicine... Although have started preparing for the post graduation entrance exams and i want to do md psm since ever... But the lack og guidance is confusing me a lot... Pls help!!

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    1. Dear Shruti,
      Wish you all the best for your preparation towards PG entrance examination. If ever you got admitted into CM/PSM, don't hesitate and go for it. Rest, we can discuss after your admission...

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  16. Sir
    I am pursuing Md psm from meerut
    I am not interested to do faculty job and want to enter in feild
    Kindly guide, what should be my approach and my opportunities

    Thank u
    Abhishek

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  17. Nice article..
    COMMUNITY MEDICINE SPECIALIST word is an encouraging one...

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  19. Thanks a lot sir for your inspiring words and effort you put in to explain the minute details about delima PSM post grad goes through

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  20. Thanks a lot sir for your inspiring words and effort you put in to explain the minute details about delima PSM post grad goes through

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  21. Inspiring read...looking forward to read more articles

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  22. Inspiring read...looking forward to read more articles

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  23. Very Well Written...VERY HELPFUL FOR COMMUNITY MEDICINE PGs.
    KEEP WRITING..
    REGARDS.....
    dr.pandeylalit@gmail.com

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  24. Great read !!!!
    May I narrate an encounter where I had to take the interview of the interviewer ... I was called for the visa interview for presenting my paper on Hand washing in The European congress of Epidemiology ... but the guy taking my interview was not clear about the concept of epidemiology ... I had to put my learning in plain terms to make him understand the importance of Epidemiology... It did had the effect ..after taking my papers he was rushing to get a hand rub on his desk ..

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  25. Sir,
    I am be getting MD psm at my rank in aipg.not understanding to join it or not though psm is my third preferred for doing pg.
    Please guide.
    Thank you
    Supriya

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  26. Sir,
    I am be getting MD psm at my rank in aipg.not understanding to join it or not though psm is my third preferred for doing pg.
    Please guide.
    Thank you
    Supriya

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  27. Sir,
    I am be getting MD psm at my rank in aipg.not understanding to join it or not though psm is my third preferred for doing pg.
    Please guide.
    Thank you
    Supriya

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    1. If this is your 1st chance in PG exam and you are interested for a pure clinical subject you may try for 2nd chance. MD in Community Medicine is also a lucrative subject if you are interested to work in Public Health of India beyond faculty job in any medical college.

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  28. thanks dr. prabir, for a very beautiful and motivational write-up. i have done my MD in CM from AIIHPH and am now working as a senior resident in AIIMS, Patna. i have always felt that this field hasn't got its due respect with time. previously it was called PSM. but now since it is being renamed as CM and in AIIMS they include even Family Medicine into it (called CFM), we should all collectively work towards making it a respectable choice for PG entrants and towards giving it its due honour.

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    1. sir...my doubt is ...does it really matter from where we are getting our MD CM degree?????
      please help

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    2. sir...my doubt is ...does it really matter from where we are getting our MD CM degree?????
      please help

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    3. Dear Namrata,
      Believe in your ability, enrich your Capacity...
      Name of Institute does not matter...

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    4. Dear Somak,
      Our ancestors in this subject had not done enough to bring due honor to this subject.
      The new generation could achieve that. We can bring both color and honor through real practicing of this subject. All the best!

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  29. Thank you sir for such a simple elaboratn on this subjct.
    I am preparing for MD entrance and interestd wid it. Actually I want to be a 'medical preventer' and carry on research about all possible way of disease prevention with special priority on environmental health. How can I achieve after getting MD in com.med? Plse help me.

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  30. And also a satisfactory job regarding the healthy workplace and a decent amount of salary.

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  31. Congratulations Dr Prabir for the great write up. We need more such specialists in the subject.

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  32. Thank u for the a consoling piece of information, u have given for community medicine aspirants sir.


    I am dr.karthikeyan from Tamilnadu. 3396 overal ranking in aipg sir. Online counseling process starts today and it goes for a week. Sorry for seeking ur opinion at the verge moment sir.

    It wasnt just a interest over the subject alone, also having been worked as a intern in my own alma mater ( a reputed govt medcl college in South Tamilnadu) and also been in work with sum pvt units as rmo, i dnt think my aspirations have changed. I still have much desire on this 'community ' entity.


    Planing to join m.d com.med in Madras medical college sir.

    I need ur opinion regarding what all colleges i can try locking in the counseling for Community medicine. Kindly opine regarding the best institutes for com.med with reasnble (REASNBLE IS SUFFICINET) clinical exposure too sir.

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  33. Hello sir, I just completed my final MBBS exams and I am starting my internship from tomorrow. Over the years, PSM has been my favourite subject and I really want to pursue it. But sir, I am still not sure as to what and how I can get a job in good/ reputed institutions like WHO/UNICEF? Could you throw some light on whether an MD PSM can be financially stable? Please reply , sir. I am really on the verge of deciding my preferences.. Thanks.

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  34. hai sir,,i have got MD community medicine in allindia exam,,gandhi medical college bhopal ,i am from tamilnadu,,this exam was my thrid attempt,two years of preparation ,,my parents giving willingness with half minded,,many questions regarding,finance,recognition in the society,i am confused whether to go for it or not,,kindly do the need full,help me

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  35. Dear Sumetha Suga, Just close your eyes. Have a deep breathe in and out. Get admitted into Community Medicine. Rest, keep in touch, we can continue discussion.

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  36. Gm Sir... I am Dr. Jaya U exactly explained wat is going through my mind.. I joined MD Spm recently .. And have faced difficulty to explain my family about the course I have joined.. Sir u spoke about distant degree to be obtained PGDHHM how to apply for that .. Can I join it now as first year pg.. Will it effect my academics right now .. N I also want to know the experience of working in NGO.. Can I work part time in any NGO for meanwhile? Please guide sir

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  37. hi sir .. i'm gonna join MD CM in Jipmer .. i would like to enter WHO .. can u pls guide me in this .

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  39. Hello sir, I plan to do an MPH with MBA from Australia.. how valuable will tat degree be back in india.

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  40. Hello sir,
    This is Komal Khaniya from BJMC ,Ahmedabad. I wanted advice regarding Master's in public health . I m in 3rd part 1 at the moment. Since 1st year my dream branch was surgery and then Mch CVTS. But after reading community medicine , I felt the need of merging public health and psychiatry component with surgery or for that matter any clinical branch. So i want to study all these four branches.And also I want to do something that will help us to overcome root cause of failure of public health and programmes in India . I don't know how to go about with this or is this feasible. Sir, please help me to sort out this. And will this help to finally achieve my aim of establishing a 'health centre' here not only 'Hospital'. Thank you.

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    1. Selecting a PG subject and pursuing one's dream is a tough job. Again qualifying in PG entrance is not an easy task. Just focus on your UG study and prepare for PG entrance...Time will take care.

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  42. Hi sir.i've got MD community medicine.i was really struggling to make a decision but after going through your blog I've no doubt.Thanks a lot.

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  43. Congratulations Apoorv!
    Try your best to be the best PG of your times.
    All the best!!!

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  44. got md cm and still in dilama, though ur posts brought relief . i would like to know how can CM GRADUATE GET JOB IN WHO? 2ndly do we have job oppertunities in dubai /kuwait /usa/uk and whats the process? coz i wud like to earn too equally to the other counterparts. pls reply me sir ji.,.,

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    1. If you are a dynamic post graduate in Community You can get the job. visit job site www.devnetjobsindia.org. Also register your details with various job sites like WWW.TIMESJOB.COM;WWW.SHINE.COM;WWW.LINKEDIN.COM Recruiters can see your profile call back you.

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  45. Hi. It's still not clear about two things 1)Job opportunities in abroad. Even if there is jobs for Public Health Specialist in abroad they are in hard to reach areas, geographical and environmental challenges to face. 2) This branch is more towards service to community rather than service plus earning. Earning is bit challenging as there is little application of clinical skills and knowledge. You work outside your comfort zone even after having MD degree for instance External monitor in pulse polio programme. I have one question in my mind that how come Public Health Specialists contribute in revenue generation for particular organization and is there any role of marketing of speciality. Waiting to hear

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  46. Hi. It's still not clear about two things 1)Job opportunities in abroad. Even if there is jobs for Public Health Specialist in abroad they are in hard to reach areas, geographical and environmental challenges to face. 2) This branch is more towards service to community rather than service plus earning. Earning is bit challenging as there is little application of clinical skills and knowledge. You work outside your comfort zone even after having MD degree for instance External monitor in pulse polio programme. I have one question in my mind that how come Public Health Specialists contribute in revenue generation for particular organization and is there any role of marketing of speciality. Waiting to hear

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    1. Yes, earning a handsome amount is challenging...

      Job opportunities in hospitals and medical colleges in middle east countries as Family Medicine Specialist can fetch you handsome tax free salaries.

      Yes, if you want to earn more, you have to leave your comfort zone!!!
      Hope I could answer adequately.
      Regards.

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  47. Lovely article...filled me with a sense of hope
    I was in a dilemma whether to chose cm as my career
    Now i can proudly tell everyone that i study a subjects that prevents diseases before its occurrence.
    Hope that cm sees even brighter future.

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  48. Hello Dr.I got my PG seat in community medicine this year ..It's my favourite subject since MBBS days.Although my family members, relatives,teachers were totally against it and wanted me to be a pathologist ,i am proud to say I boldly chose my passion.There is existential crisis in our branch and I'm struggling to explain my branch to others😂😂.It really irritates me to see people look down upon our
    branch in our country and I really wish to change this mindset amongst all. I'm totally satisfied and I feel I've chosen the right decision..I've had interest sincr childhood of getting into international agencies,UNICEF at least for a year,then get into govt service and academics..Hope it gets fulfilled one day.Thanks a lot for this amazing post sir👍🙏

    Dr Prianka Shashi Kumar
    COMMUNITY HEALTH SPECIALIST

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  50. hello sir
    its so nice to see you replying to our posts after so long too, i am a md community medicine working as AP for last 3 years. i want to go in public health jobs later, can doing some online courses improve my capability or as an academician also, what courses i can do?

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  51. Sir I personally love psm in my UG, but having a doubt sir. Is the workload equal to clinical subjects or low as other non clinicals. Can I spend some time with my friends and family??!

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